Hotspots


thinking about this for a while & correlating some of the private information  – you guys are sharing with me through email –  we are able  now to build a greater picture of where the strongest “hubs” of bethelization are occurring. of course – this is impacting every charismatic church group  nationwide –  so  no church is free of risk   unless a)  the leadership are standing firm in the word of God  &  b)  the leadership are wise enough to see this movement for what it is – before allowing themselves to be sucked in. here are the hotspots:  (England)

  • KENT
  • PLYMOUTH
  • YORKSHIRE
  • READING
  • LONDON
  • Cumbria

in these areas particularly,   there are strong partnerships across local churches all promoting everything coming from Bethel, Revival Alliance & the 7 mountains mandate…  its more than likely that if you are attending a charismatic church  in one of these areas – that the leadership are “networking”  across the hub to create  “unity” – share ideas –  host events &. run training courses such as local BSSM ..   please do find out where you leadership is at –     &  if you find a hotspot that’s UK but not on the list  please do let us know..

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Georgian Banov


Hi guys – feel I had to post my thoughts tonight   as its come to my attention that  Georgian Banov  will be in the UK  at the end of the month  (Oct 2014)

of course  the event(s) are being publicised now  so that many attend…    please please do your research  before going to any of his meetings… so far we know that:

  • Georgian & his wife Winnie-   minister together with John & Lilly crowder  in their mystical schools &  crowders church in Santa Cruz…..  Crowder –  remember believes in spiritual bi location –  levitation –  sucking from (lactating) from the breast of Jesus    & smoking up the Holy spirit….   google    banov & crowder   they are on you tube –   Georgian clearly states  the position of alignment between himself, Crowder & Bethel…
  • Georgian is a member of revival alliance –   along with BJ  & the Arnotts  of   “Toronto blessing”  fame
  • Georgian regularly imparts –  the supernatural to Bssm  students  at Bethel
  •    Georgian  preaches  “quite well”  he has the ability to take scripture –  teach it & make whatever he says incredibly plausible….  there are many truths of the  scriptures  he communicates very effectively,   however   deception works by  mixture-   sounding good & right but  having an undercurrent of false ness…

please do your own research –   share here what you find.

“Open Heaven”


I’ve had an email contributor ask about the term “OPEN HEAVEN”   & what this term actually means. I think that’s where we need to start – time & again  this we hear words & phrases used commonly movement but with very little if any explanation or teaching about what is actually meant.  the term “Open Heaven”  is one such phrase..   my experience of being in this movement, the river is that there is an unspoken  understanding that  “you know what is meant”   because you are experiencing a renewal & are in the  ” flow of the river”   which as far as I can discern is to do with being in agreement & unity with everything going on around that is said to be prophetic or the presence of God.

 

ok, so as always I refer to the word of God, for specific references..   the first is from Ezekiel 1   which talks about heaven being opened so that Ezekiel can see visions of God..   the passage goes on to describe God as the four creatures. wheels within wheels.  & ultimately  a prophetic revelation of Jesus.

2nd reference is from  John 1..   this whole chapter deals with who Jesus really is..  I urge you to review these 2 passages together in your own time. v 51 says   “Jesus says to him (Nathaniel)   I say to you hereafter you shall see Heaven Opened & the angels of God ascending & descending on the son of man”   in other words Jesus is confirming here that he is the son of Man & he is God…

both of these scriptures are pointing towards revealing Jesus as both God & risen saviour.    Jesus as king of kings is centralised in his rightful authority, from Heaven of heaven.   yes it is ALL about him.

 

so the term “open heaven” as used in the river movement  may mean something  slightly different.  We would expect it to mean a place where Jesus is revealed,   –  going by the context of these above scriptures… but does it?

here is a portion of a song by William Matthews. (Bethel Musician)     we sang this in my Bethelized church

 

Deep Cries Out

I’ve got a river of living water, a fountain that never will run dry.

Its an Open Heaven  you’re releasing and we will never be denied…

 

so in context of the above scriptures – this makes no sense….  because  the purpose of heaven opening is to reveal Jesus –  he has already been revealed & ongoingly so through our diligence in promoting the Gospel..  through our words & our lifestyle – through the witness of the Holy spirit in conviction of sin .  Fair to assume then that this song teaches us & reinforces what this movement really believes an “open heaven” is…

Bethel teach that heaven can be present on earth, this is Kingdom Now –  theology –  & of course in Heaven there is no pain, sickness or death..  – the River movement teaches that we can have the presence of God  right here & now in such abundance that there is nothing that is not allowed in heaven allowed on earth either… & that we are  the ones responsible for bringing it in… through our fervent prayerful longing & obedience

the evidence for such an  “open heaven” of course is the amount & magnitude of  miracles signs & wonders, experienced…   those inside of this movement will argue that Jesus is being revealed through signs & wonders & healings etc.   because they feel that he is glorified & honoured this way..   however,  is the emphasis here on knowing what Jesus has accomplished on the cross…  are people responding to the Holy Spirit out of conviction of sin & repentance, are these things ever even mentioned?

 

the emphasis of the above song is  having an open heaven experience where no one is denied their healing/miracle & this of course appeals to our flesh.. & its not what the bible teaches,    blessed  are those who are persecuted,  & the poor will always be among us  …  furthermore, if total physical healing for all is for every person who accepts Christ, then he has power enough to restore them at the moment of conversion to him & we would see this without exception..

 

trials & difficulties come in our lives to help us grow in character,  im not saying that God cant or doesn’t heal or work miracles  I believe very much that he can..   but I also believe he works all things together for the good of those who love him..   we don’t often know his will  but we submit to it  even if it means the tough road…  Bethelized teaching tho tends to point to “pray & believe all the bad stuff away – because God cant possibly want that for anyone”  see that attitude serves our need for want very often, making our lives easier…   in short  it becomes all about ME  my miracle, my experience, & my ministry….

 

& the whole slant of this teaching lives in denial of the biblical truth, that there will one day be a new heaven & a new earth….  well why so?  if heaven & earth can be joined now.

 

 

It’s All Been A Set Up


this is something I have feeling/saying for a while… Mkayla puts it well…

m'kayla's korner

2 Thessalonians 2:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, and they might be saved.

11 And for this reason God will send the a strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

12 that they all might be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

There is much being said today through various “Christian” groups and teachers about God’s love. I’ve heard it and have read it in various teachings, I’ve read it here as a defense mechanism against my blog as though the fact that God loves nullifies every thing else He has said to us.  I am told that I have no love because I expose the deceiver…

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The New Age Propensities of Bethel Church’s Bill Johnson


thank you John L for this very informative article… boy we need to pray like never before!

The Narrowing Path

Below my introduction is an article further revealing the false teachings of Bill Johnson of Bethel Church in Redding, California in a new book that he has contributed to, “The Physics of Heaven”. This influential cult, part of the larger “New Apostolic Reformation” movement, spreads poisonous false doctrine like a disease throughout the world.

Bill Johnson is a regular speaker at conferences and ‘churches’ in Australia, including Hillsong Sydney and C3 (Christian City Churches). There are many other Anglican, Baptist and independent churches who have also embraced the false teachings of the ‘New Apostolic Reformation’ movement in which Johnson is an ‘apostle’. I, like many other brothers and sisters in Christ around the world, have seen firsthand the devastation that these  destructive heresies and deceiving spirits have on pastors and congregations.

The unbiblical and theosophical/new age foundations of Bill Johnson’s teachings have been previously addressed in the following…

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