so what’s the problem with signs & wonders?


signs & wonders are in the bible  right?    so that, makes them biblical right?   Jesus did them – the early church experienced them- the  devil counterfeited them  –   yep yep all true..

however,   todays “church”  is off base   with the signs & wonders  culture  & here’s why.

  •  S & W   are a one time, in the moment event –  even if we claim to be in a environment or culture where  S&W  are expected to be our normal experience…   they only serve the purpose of that one moment….  Now,   I believe our God can perform miracles & healings & I would never would want to deny someone their healing..  the problem is that the S&W culture which is created becomes addictive….    there is always a cry for more…  & an expectation that God will “do the wow factor” –   the mindset undergoes the change of being & taking responsibility for ones life –   to a snap my fingers & God will do it for me approach..
  • S&W  are not a right – purchased through Christ’s atonement on the cross…….    if they were so, it   would automatically follow that all people after salvation would have such an experience
  • Galatians 5 talks about the fruit of the spirit being  “longsuffering”    the S & W  culture teaches the exact opposite in receiving “your breakthrough”    & the implications of Kingdom now theology  are that the perfection that is found in heaven is for us here on earth right now…    ie :   no “longsuffering”
  • in the S & W culture, because of high expectation, everything is a sign…   not much discernment is offered & if it is it isn’t honoured but dismissed…     S& W are  often exaggerated….    & embellished beyond the originators testimony.   because in this  environment EXPERIENCES trump everything else
  • there is an undercurrent belief that the more  S&W in the mix – the more God is present.   & therefore it follows that the more S & W – the  more spiritual or favoured  a particular person or group is.
  • the  word of God  says  that S&W follow  the Gospel-   but if no Gospel  is ever shared –   how can we be sure that the S &W are genuinely of God
  • even receiving    a personal miracle (such as being raised from the dead)  is no guarantee of a persons salvation.   why because- we cannot “purchase” people into the kingdom of God this way  –   Jesus is the only one who has literally paid for our own salvation through his sacrifice on the cross.
  • in this movement – moving in a S & W realm  is all about exercising personal risk – & developing ones gifting..   the person receiving the miracle is pretty much secondary – in the equation…   on the streets this is highly irresponsible because there  is no care or concern for follow up for the individual unless they themselves initiate it
  • risk is confused with exercising faith…  & in actual fact  developing  a S & W culture undermines faith rather than promoting it……  I know that sounds strange. but  if we are in an environment where we always need to experience “God” in a tangible & definable  his presence is measured..   where then is the ability to stand through adversity & trials going to be tested out in our lives..? we need faith to know that God has that totally covered…  but if that process is continually linked to our experiences-   that’s not really faith…

remember the children of Israel – they had supernatural provision every day for 40 years in the wilderness..   manna, shoes that didn’t wear out, direction by a pillar of fire…..  & in that 40 year moment the day came when it ended…  they settled in the land & had to work for their provision-   instead of God providing they had to grow up & take responsibility –   they had to process that out instead of living of in the moment of the “event”

now am I saying im anti S & W  nope!  not at all…  what i’m saying is let’s be wise, lets understand this better-  S &W as part of a journey not the ultimate destination.

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3 thoughts on “so what’s the problem with signs & wonders?

  1. Great article. The problem with worshiping signs and wonders is that they often cover up a lack of love and true spiritual substance. They are a very poor replacement for real love despite what Bethel claims about being a loving church it is very superficial and reserved for those with the right look, or “it” status. . When those disciples that claim status with God in Matthew 7 do so because “we performed signs and wonders in your name” He rejects them stating “I don’t know you”. To those welcomed that He claims to “know” He points out their relationships of love and service. In particular love and service to the poor, the prisoner…

    Bethel cultists claim signs and wonders as fruit and bash those who question it as “religionists” patting themselves on the back that questioners don’t “experience” God. Of course their experience is some bizarre manifestation not the fruit of the spirit that is expressed in relationships and includes patience, love, joy,. When I was in the movement I became a tyrant demanding God to do my will, ,perform on my command. It is an unholy, ungodly thing masquerading as super spirituality.

  2. Good advice re signs and wonders Zazzy. These Bethelites, and others like them, have moved away from the finished work of Jesus on the Cross and they are into works plain and simple. When a person moves from Grace into works the focus is always on self rather than ministering the Good News of Jesus Christ to people so they can be set free. Rather, people are recruited to the same works program to go about doing the same thing as those who did “works” on them. There’s no salvation in God involved here at all that I can see. No wonder this movement is moving swiftly toward Catholicism. They have much in common already.

  3. Recently Bill Johnson wrote ‘re stewarding move of the spirit in services’ : ‘We always give room for breakthrough, room for encounter and room for preaching the word but the last one is the flexible one.”
    Is this not blatantly mocking the centrality of The Word to our belief and worship?! Where in the New Testament does it talk about the centrality of ‘breakthrough’ and ‘encounter’ but ‘preaching the word’ being ‘flexible?’ How many verses are there about the importance of ‘the preaching of the word? Contrast Johnson’s words with 2 Timothy 4, v.2-3:
    ‘2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.’
    Sounds like that time has come!

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