following the blog update — Important info: 30/6/13


hello Everybody,

thank you sooo much for bearing with me over this weekend….  We had some problems in identifying that if you sign up to follow the blog  you should be receiving all posts- new comments  everything basically that gets updated onto the blog…  huge apologies  as up until now I don’t think this has been happening..

so here is what we need to do  even if you have signed up to follow the blog before today…

1)  use your email address to sign up for a wordpress.com account…   you will have to visit the wordpress.com site to do this….  great if you blog already…  if not you have the choice as to whether or not to start one up…    you will need to start up a worpress.com account if you want to follow the blog & haven’t been receiving all the comments & updates..

2) create an account username…   – now it should recognise your current username if you are using it in conjunction with the email address you have previously used for posting…  if not Im  so sorry  but you may have to adopt a new username…

3)  once your wordpress.com account is created  —  visit your account dashboard  which should appear  on the left hand side…   scroll down to   “blogs I follow”     check  to see if the blog is  listed…  if not  enter the address  whelikre it tells you to enter the URL..   the blog address..  is https://rooftopsandrafters.wordpress.com     enter that….

4)   ensure that your email notifications are set  if you click  where it says   EDIT  it gives you a choice of following the blog  instantly or set to a day/time  to recive your email notifications..

5) check that the button is clicked for ON…   this should create a pop up under the listing for the blog which tells you that you will receive  all notifications by email  for new posts & comments to the blog

I have checked that it does indeed work through a test email to a  separate email & online persona  I created  & it sent it to myself   as tho  I was a follower of the blog   so I am hopeful  this will be the answer…as it was succesful

I apologise for the fiddlyness of it all & the inconvenience of it  but this seems to be the way forward…

thank you for your grace & patience  whilst this was sorted out…  I do so want everyone to receive everything  they sign up for…

alternatively –  you may  sign up to follow comments & replies to the comments you contribute…  please be sure to tick the boxes  at the bottom of the “add your comment”   box  each time you post…    however, please be aware that you have to make a post in order to receive   replies on that thread…   there is no other option to have notifications for specific posts & threads..

be very blessed   & please do let me know by email if there are any further problems

Zazzy

Laying on of Hands


LAYING ON OF HANDS                                                                   edited post/: original  on http://mkayla.wordpress.com/
which of course naturally occurs in the firetunnel experience..
lets root this back to the word.. of course, this has to be our starting & finishing place in making any & all decisions in & around our lives including that of being church ( obviously!)..

1 Tim 4 v 12 -14

devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching. Do not neglect your gift, which was given you through prophecy when the body of elders laid their hands on you.

& 1 Tim 5 v 22
Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

both these verses point to the conduct of people giving prophetic utterances over peoples lives have a high level of responsibility & recognised Godly authority.
similarly it could be a wise interpretation for the believer to consider “dont be quick in having hands laid on you”

to my mind the God we serve is very full, Jesus said he came to give us life in abundance this means if anyone endorses a persons’ spiritual calling or gifting (in the sense thats its already recognisable in the person) & hands are laid on as a permission giving/releasing/ blessing… the persons praying should demonstate at the least, responsibility & authority for the calling/gifting being endorsed..

if not, doubt, confusion can abound when the “thing” being prayed about doesnt seem to fit…. this results in an unGodly outworking…. as the person doesnt know what to do with it & it becomes & “issue” in their lives ( oftentimes they are also blamed for this personally too) in other words, it becomes a stumbling block.

Leaders have the responsibility to ensure that if they are endorsing someone for ministry, that that persons lifestyle matches up… if that person is in sin when it is exposed, it takes the credibilty of the person praying down with it too… ( thinks of Bentley’s Commissioning for example)

Leaders also further have the ongoing responsibility to provide opportunity & environments for that “thing” minstry/gifting/calling to flourish in a person – anything less makes the leader a “man of hot air words” If any anointing is transfered it is from Christ himself & is recognisable & evidential & fit for purposes that connect with the word of God… why should it be that anyone in the precious body of Christ receive anything less.

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 furthermore- the early church were taught that it was indeed possible for a spirit to be ” transferred” but they were instructed to keep themselves pure by not being too quick in laying praying hands on people… scripture admits therefore that something unGodly exists here & warns explicitly against it….

currently, sadly it seems the church at large is doing its level best to do the exact opposite

The Great Divide


http://www.gty.org/blog/B130610

from Rodney Howard Browne    –   10th June 2013

There is coming a massive attack on the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement by a group of individuals that don’t believe in the power of the Holy Spirit today – these men do not believe in speaking in tongues or the gifts of the spirit – they think that because of excesses in the church that they have a right to write off the fastest growing sector of Christianity – over 800 million in the earth today – that would be as bad as writing Jesus off because of one of the 12 was Judas Iscariot – if these individuals just adopted Gamaliel’s advice of Acts 5:38-39 that would be fine however they have no fear of God and are in grave danger of blaspheming the Holy Ghost – they think that because the movement has had scandals that have been publicised that this gives them leeway to do what they are doing – however the only reason why it gets the attention is because these individuals are on TV – everywhere I travel I hear of scandals outside of the Pentecostal charismatic realm but these are never publicised because no one knows them – they are calling their exposé strange fire however you better have the alternative if you are going to criticise something as counterfeit you have to produce the real – or else you had better shut up! The only ones who have the right to bring correction are the ones inside the camp not outside!     
  • for sometime now- it is evident that God himself is removing people out of & away from the excesses of chaotic neo-charismaticism…. &  into or back into    thought through, biblical Christianity..
  • for the record:  I welcome the Holy Spirit-   I’m not against the use of Tongues, prophecy or healings…   but when these things are misused, abused  & done outside of the context of proper Godly authority- when they are utilised to demonstrate man’s (super spiritual) power instead of God’s glory – when it is done apart from & instead of preaching the Gospel of Christ crucified-   when it is done with immaturity & irresponsibility – passed off as something “awesome”  when it is over –  endorsed or even faked…- done with dominion, elitism & control at the forefront  —  I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT..   as it cannot be reproducing the Kingdom of God attributes of righteousness, joy & peace  & if not the Kingdom of God then which kingdom does it come from & give representation to?     — the deception is that whilst the FEELINGS   remain – people feel that this is of God-  once those have dulled- there is the pull to go back for more…  this is why we have all this talk of  a “move of God”  –  the overriding sense is that people tend to only feel that God is “moving”  in the literal time & location zones of where these things are observed…  God of course  – who is outside time & outside space can move anywhere, anyhow & however insignificant  (in our perceptions)  he chooses anytime –   this is all too a “move of God”  –   its just that the way we have been taught,    channels our mindsets into not believing  this is so….  for far too many a long year  this deception has gone on & on

Luke 17 v 20-21 says:   (hscb)

Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them,“The kingdom of God is not coming in ways that can be observed, 21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”  

 
  • the time is coming when we each of us will have to make a choice as to which side of this fence we will be on  –  we need to be sure we are on the side of truth,   the final authority of the written word & not going beyond what is written there…
  • A division is occuring & it  is getting more & more entrenched as more people are drawn in by  amazing experiences, & the sensual of how  they feel-   but this is not true FAITH   it is the X factor…  people (especially the young)   are being misled to believe that this is Christianity..  it is not….  not if the Gospel is not present in their understandings, not if they are being told  to just “turn to God”  for whatever they need…& want…  instead of laying down their lives to follow Jesus- they are being actively taught that they are as royalty into the Kingdom…  some even go through “knighting ceremonies”  this movement has gone off track & we need to be clear about who it is who is causing this division
  • RHB  is a key player in the river movement.. it was he who initiated the Toronto Blessing c1994…  please please…  consider where you are at…  as for me  –   RHB  I left your camp a long time ago…

Small j & Big J: Judgement & Judgementalism


Many times  we hear the phrase  ” don’t touch the Lord’s anointed”

it comes from Psalms 105 v 7-15

He is the Lord our God;
His judgments govern the whole earth.
He remembers His covenant forever,
the promise He ordained
for a thousand generations—
the covenant He made with Abraham,
swore to Isaac,
10 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree
and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
11 “I will give the land of Canaan to you
as your inherited portion.”

12 When they were few in number,
very few indeed,
and temporary residents in Canaan,
13 wandering from nation to nation
and from one kingdom to another,
14 He allowed no one to oppress them;
He rebuked kings on their behalf:
15 “Do not touch My anointed ones,
or harm My prophets.”    (hscb)

in context of what the scripture is clearly saying here it is God himself who is the Judge  & the people of God the anointed ones..  in the New covenant – this of course includes all of us who have accepted Jesus as a sacrifice for our sin…  we too are the “anointed ones”   see v 14 – God is saying there is a rebuke to Kings & other oppressors..  we conclude then that “authority”  has no given distinction over & above “anointing” ; in other words  whether we are a leader or not,  we are all equal under   Jesus…  therefore when we hear this phrase being used – we need to check the context & see whether it is being used from one who has authority over us…  to pull rank of compliance & control….& used as bullying tactics   A leader  is no more ANOINTED than anyone else in the Kingdom of God…

Futhermore ,- when it comes to Judging & judgement & judgementalism – we have got ourselves in a pickle over these terms..

Big J judging  is all about   judging another & being critical about their, behaviour, attitudes, choices & motivations…  JUDGEMENTALISM

small j  judging  is about discerning & weighing up –  making a choice for ourselves about a situation & sometimes learning from the mistakes  & successes of others – judging.   this is necessary  for us as humans to decide between right & wrong & how much influence for good or bad ends others can hold over us…  we hope in a very natural sense we can help our young children develop this skill for example so that they may not hook up with “the wrong crowd”  who get them into all sorts of trouble including illegal activities…  it is the inner knowing for one self where to draw a line & the confidence to do that. Of course as Christians we must surrender & extend that  to be in line with all that the bible teaches too.

so lets look at this biblically,

luke 6: v35 -38

But love your enemies, do what is good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is gracious to the ungrateful and evil. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.

37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you; a good measure—pressed down, shaken together, and running over—will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.  (hcsb)

this type of judging  is big J judging….   can we see that it is not constructive, it doesn’t bring life –  it brings criticism, oppression & hurt..  it doesnt build up a person or encourage them by any means..  it is a dead end.. which is why it is so deadly…   Remember that Jesus came to smash oppression & bring freedom – therefore  we can play no part in the continuation of the things he came to bind up..   As God is the Judge, he himself decides to be gracious to the ungrateful & evil… if we set ourselves up as “Judge”  we play the Devil’s game of setting ourselves up as God…

James 4 v 11 says

Don’t criticize one another, brothers. He who criticizes a brother or judges his brother criticizes the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge.  (hcsb)

small j judging is different…

paul makes the following appeal in Romans 16   v 17 -18

 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. 18 For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. (ESV)

& in 1 Corinthians 5 v 11 -13 he writes:

 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.  For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?  God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”  (ESV)

now clearly we can see that in order to follow this instruction – there has to be some decision making about a person who is  inside the church  & considered a believer  as to whether their behaviour & actions warrant this….  some small j   weighing up & discerning has to go on here to get this right…  THIS TYPE OF JUDGING IS OK –  it is biblically endorsed.. for those who are

  •  teaching contrary doctrines  ( those that are extra to or not in the scriptures – & presenting them as thought they are)
  • using flattery  for their own advantage ( buttering people up)
  •  sexually immoral   ( any sexual conduct outside of their marriage)
  •  greedy      –  money makers or ambition for them self  seekers
  • idolaters – who put people (or ritual or extra biblical teachings) in a high regard to the point of worshipping them
  • revilers –  a person who talks harshly  (especially about others)
  • drunkards  (or addicts of any description)
  • swindlers  – the con artist  always after your money  one way or another…

& why because a person who calls them self a Christian – who behaves in these ways, & will not turn in repentance having been corrected by those who are Godly – corrupts the Body…  such a person brings in “sin to the camp”  where there should be holiness  so it needs to be addressed  for the sake of building & encouraging & bringing life & freedom  to the rest of the body..   if ignored it runs rampant eventually & the end result is that the body is so corrupted it becomes the false church…

what we cant do any longer is confuse the two ‘J’ s    for fear of  being operative in Big J   – the church at large has ignored small j  & from my observation it is causing huge huge problems

time to be  clear about these issues in our own minds  & im not saying Im an expert  – I’ve just simply thrown my thoughts into the pot & given some biblical perspective around it. I  would  love to hear what you think  on this subject – lets discuss & grapple with it  for our encouragement & building each other up..

Z

A BRAND NEW CHRISTIAN


I am completely happy to announce that,  the blog welcomes our very first  New Christian..

Victoria, contacted me several weeks ago & we have been discussing  the Gospel, Christ Crucified, Sin & repentance….on a pretty much daily basis-     tonight…  7th June 2013  Victoria has made a confession & profession of faith – repented of Sin, understanding that Jesus died in her place as a sacrifice & in her words “has turned to wholeheartedly follow Jesus”

I am sooo  so pleased & proud & know that you guys will be too…  please pray for her during these early days friends

Congratulations & well done Victoria:

Blessing & Glory & wisdom & thanksgiving & honour & power & might  be to our God for ever & ever      Revelation 7 v 12

additional reading about the Gospel of Christ:   http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0140.htm

Jesus Culture in every University Campus in the UK


Coming out of Manchester UK a joint initiative between local churches, Campus Awakening UK & Jesus Culture (UK)   is a defined strategy to place revival culture embassys & hubs  into every University Campus  in the UK..

please please please – students, parents & interested others alike…  you have to know   –  Jesus Culture are preaching a different Gospel – one of signs & wonders – & if a different Gospel then a different Jesus

in the following video you will notice that the Sharing/preaching of the (true) Gospel – the promotion of Christ crucified is not mentioned  – yet  there is much talk of developing  “revival culture”  transformations &  bringing heaven to earth…

http://vimeo.com/51451160

RUN!

A Huge Big Thank You!!


Today, as the blog reaches 10,000 hits  I just wanted share my absolute thanks for all of your support & encouragement…  It is incredible to me that God would choose to use  a small blog- such as this.   reaching out & connecting with so many… its confirmation that this blog space is sadly needed…

Thank you for all  your amazing testimonies & blog contributions – each one is so precious…  I have been moved to tears at times as I read how God is so faithful..  I’m looking forward to so much more from many friends we don’t yet know as the lord gathers them up

Well,  I have a few new friends  who have contacted me personally & talked through where they are at, shared their hearts & have been faithful in praying for myself, my family & the blog…. thank you so much –  you guys know who you are.. your care & consideration for me has been outstanding..

Maybe, you would be interested to know that the number 1 search query consistently relates to  SOZO…  it seems many have been affected by this aspect of ministry coming from Bethel than anything else.. more & more people are asking questions about it..  so please , please, pleeeeeease if you have any information relating to how this is being outworked  in your situation at ground level in the UK ,  any testimony to share,  post it up…  any post  or question is always super helpful to others who are seeking info.

I have had a fair share of disagreement & accusation too – that  within  these pages – division has & is being caused within the body.  Well – to those who hold sway with that idea remember that Jesus says in Matthew 10 v 34

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Now a sword by its very nature cuts things,  & once cut,  the thing is divided –  there is a difference between dividing & divisive…  the type of dividing Jesus is talking about here is the cutting off – of Deception, lies & darkness…  the things that hold us back from completely surrendering to his sovereign Lordship – He suggests ( if we read on ) that even this may be to cut from precious people in our own families…  so I’m in no doubt it could equally mean to be cut off from those that consistently preach another Gospel & another Jesus who will not listen or hear any Godly rebuke or correction…enough is enough dear friends

I praise God that as we stand for truth – HIS truth together – that  Darkness & deception & lies will indeed be cut off  away from us. The blog is not here to bring divisiveness for some sort of trouble making fun…(there is no time for that  kind of silliness in these last days)  Its for TRUTH  which must always be paramount- &  it is this that we want to sort out..get some clarification on. There has to be diligence in the Body of Christ… & We  need to pursue right standing (righteousness) with the Lord – no matter what…

My prayer is that the Lord would bring many, many more out from the darkness & into HIS light – thank you for sharing in the journey with me…  For his glory & honour I’m expecting that the blog will reach 20,000 hits by Christmas 2013

As  Paul writes in Phillipians 3   v 14 -15

I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.

So Friends, Let’s   press on together too –  HE is so worth it!

Much, Much Love & Blessings

Zazzy

rooftopsandrafters2013@hotmail.com