Leaving a Bethelized Church


Leaving a Bethelized Church or one that is so far gone into the ways of error is  difficult  but not impossible.  Our God is bigger & stronger than any falseness, work of darkness & oppression – AMEN!

here are some pointers if you are having this internal conversation

  • completely get grounded in the word.   pray & seek God ask him to reveal ultimate truths about all you are experiencing in your situation – ask for clear guidance from & through his word…  keep a journal if necessary   date, index & cross reference if thats helpful to you.
  • pray pray & pray…  for your leaders, for the others in your church & yourself.   that the Lord would reveal HIS truth to everyone in the mix.  set aside time to pray specifically into these issues,  Fast too if you feel it appropriate.  deal with any sin in your life & especially put right any outstanding issues you may have with any individuals you have within the body of believers.
  • wait  on God.. & wait a little while-    observe if there is any change in emphasis in your sitution (  but also be prepared – as when we did this things actually got worse in our situation)
  • Repent of anything, the Holy spirit reveals to you as error that you have been involved in – begin practicing withdrawing yourself from those elements that are occurring in your situation   (ie may be  no longer participating in certain ministries)   always be led by the Holy spirit on this…
  • continue searching the scriptures & widen your research  –   to find out as much info as you can about the specifics of your situation …  it may be that  where you are is heavily involved with SOZO or  BSSM   so research those things particularly
  • ask questions  through this blog & others..   contact us directly if you need to    rooftopsandrafters2013@hotmail.com

once you feel ready  & ONLY after praying & seeking God about the timing etc…   consider speaking to your leadership about the specific issues at hand.

I would recommend:

  • arrange /ask for a meeting in a neutral venue  (ie not your house)   with your leader..   ensure you have someone with you to support.  & that you will not be on your own up against a gang of 3.
  • explain your concern carefully, ask gentle but leading questions  & allow the leadership to respond – this is much better than going in with a list of  “I think THIS ”  – it may be through ignorance they have not considered some of the issues that you are now raising – so this does need to be acknowledged.
  • qualify any of the points you make from scripture & always refer to “what the word of God says”
  • Be fully prepared to hear how rebellious or anti – unity etc –  you have become in bringing this to them-  almost certainly there will be a defensive arrogance  in leadership responses.
  • Be fully prepared – to know that this meeting may clarify a need to resign..   if you feel not ready to face that possibility I would suggest not bringing these issues up until such a time…  in your heart & mind –  you need to feel self assured in what you are bringing & that there are very real consequences which may need to be actioned quite quickly after the meeting.

its quite likely that through this whole process, you will sense a great deal of confusion-   the only antidote to that is be grounded in the word…   it is our final authority & the ONLY thing you can trust in this situation to speak total truth…

*  know that there others that have done this before you, we are here to help & support & to pray for you  *

& you never know – you may be able to bring Truth to the table & a fresh perspective – which changes the direction of the leadership…   it was ugly, but has happened with one person I have known of.  I pray so  & that more will be snatched from a fire.

be richly blessed.

z

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5 thoughts on “Leaving a Bethelized Church

  1. Being from an AG church (BJ’s affiliation), I’ve likewise witnessed the slow descend to ‘Bethel’. What more then with a ‘learning spate’ at a renown megachurch. If Nazi Germany (1933-1945), a so-called Christian nation, could be deluded by a charismatic leader such as Adolf Hitler who implemented “the final solution of the Jewish question” wherein some 6 million Jews were culled, what more when bible-believing saints of today hold the LORD GOD hostage to His Word by their legitimate claims upon scripture–if only unwittingly–so that the Lord grants them their hearts desire: so-called anointed apostolic leaders that gradually displace God as Father, King and Teacher. 1 Samuel 8:7 And the Lord said to Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them. 1 John 2:26 These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. 27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. The following article written by yours truly is likewise accompanied by an illustration of the Beast of Revelation 13. It is to your discretion should you choose to share this article publicly (with or without the link to a noteworthy article by Lance Goodall of Christian Witness Ministries). Thank you. ~ Larry James


    WORD-FAITH PANDEMIC. Here in cosmopolitan Singapore we have our fair share of a different gospel running the gamut of local churches (Galatians 1:6-10; 2 Corinthians 11:4). As a matter of fact I’ve even attended New Creation Church for two and a half years as part of an ecclesiastical study apart from serving. Whilst in the pews of a hyper grace seeker-sensitive church, I’ve heard the sounds of perversity from the horse’s mouth–Joseph Prince himself–and his minions twisting scripture that is sadly regurgitated by mindless shepherds to their sheep at home cell units. With the likes of Word-Faith proponents such as Matt Crouch, Richard Roberts, Kenneth Hagin, Judah Smith, Darlene Z etc. gracing the stage, imagine that after JP’s debut at Osteen’s Lakewood Church in 2011, a home cell leader could actually ask us, “Do you think its ok to adore Ps Prince?” No, that’s not the straw that broke the camel’s back. Imagine the superstitious embrace of the Eucharist and the anointing oil for the miraculous if not grotesque–should one heed their promptings that ply the crude and silly. Furthermore, should one duly discern, JP’s focus on the bane of the Law is all but a distraction and a cop-out from a sincere exegesis of the Gospel and Pauline epistles in its entirety. Just as conjured parallels between Judaism and Islam seem amazing, amazing yet is one who preaches Jesus with a different gospel and misses Him entirely! What more then when the nation boasts of yet another heretic that has some 36,000 sheep under his watchful gaze–Kong Hee of City Harvest Church. Cho Yonggi, Benny Hinn and Phil Pringle are but the few that have hitched this wagon to only God knows where. Isn’t it amazing that God had vouchsafe for the worthless even though all nations before Him are as nothing, and they are counted by Him less than nothing and worthless (Isaiah 40:17)? Should USA be judged, she’s better off alphabetically. Should the scales fall from the eyes of the deluded, they will vomit the filth fed by these hireling shepherds that have crept in unawares to pollute every nook and cranny of the body of Christ. For that matter, Beyonce’s performance at Super Bowl 2013 can hardly differ depicting the deluded, be it the masses or a select few, that are ushered in rank and file, week in and week out to unwittingly channel in their alter ego plying the pulpit and yet be harnessed by deceit for merchandise. Madness. Or better yet the caption that says ‘Think–while its still legal!’ Never mind the gainsayers, should it baffle us when some make a defense of their pet heretic if only to confirm their delusion? Know that for every gainsayer, there are dozens more who are unbending in the pure Word of God. I can put up signs to warn you but no further than the fiery Pit. Just get the full Monty out folks–before its way too late! ~ Larry James, Singapore.

    Rev. 22:12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” 14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. 16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.

    ‘I totally agree with what you have to say!’ LT. [Lawrence Theodore Jeyachandran] Executive Director in Ravi Zacharias International Ministries (Asia-Pacific) April 2003-September 2012.

    ‘Dear Larry, Thank you for your very insightful article into the errors & fallacies in many modern churches and so called preachers of faith. Blessings!’ Rev. Alfred Ang Cheng Kiat (Emeritus Pastor) Emmanuel Assembly of God, Singapore

    ‘Dear Larry James, Thank you for this article. I have been very concerned about this issue for a very long time. These are some good places for further reflections…[websites]. And many more that you know. Thank you once again my friend!’ Ps. Pritam Singh Sandhu – South Asian Connection Founder/ President. Singapore

    ‘Very well said, James…God has opened your eyes and at the same time also in His Grace allowed you to attend these places of worship to idols to observe and discern correctly. God is exposing a lot of leaders in the Church today but at the same time is also testing the hearts of their followers. God allows this to test his people. Great you came out of the woodwork! May you continue to be led by the Holy Spirit and preach an uncompromising Gospel of Jesus Christ onto Salvation and pray for all men to come and know the Truth, especially leaders and His people. For His Glory alone,’ Ps Jan Clierinck, RCCG Singapore

    The Fresh Prince – Destined To Ruin by Lance Goodall, CWM Ministries, 12/6/12 (Joseph) Prince is preaching a different Jesus, another gospel…and although he’s articulate, charismatic, convincing, and preaching ‘grace’; he is a blind leader of the blind, leading astray the unlearned and unstable. He is at best a false apostle, and at worst a conniving HERETIC! (2 Corinthians 11:12-15; 2 Peter 3:16).
    http://www.cwm.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=543:the-fresh-prince-destined-to-ruin&catid=88:issue-62-november-2012&Itemid=27

    Sze Zeng: A Deeper Look At Joseph Prince’s Destined to Reign
    http://szezeng.blogspot.sg/2008/10/deeper-look-at-joseph-princes-destined.html

    Joseph Prince and his message of radical grace – PLUS his word faith teachings.
    http://www.letusreason.org/Popteach56.htm Many see Prince as an excellent communicator. But what exactly is he communicating? At first it seems he is focused on God’s grace, but there is a mixture. Many in Asia may not be aware of these issues on doctrine so we might have to begin at ground level to make sense on why what he stating is BIBLICALLY WRONG and can be hazardous to ones spiritual health. There are those who say: anyone who criticizes Prince has not listened to what he preaches. So we should go over what he preaches and what he has written to see what is of grace, what is exaggerated to be error and what is of word faith. We will have a copious amount of quotes through this article series. (also Pt.2 Grace, and the lack of personal accountability for sin)

    Kurtmerf — 2013-03-14 21:00 G’day Lance thank you so much for writing this article! I live on the Gold Coast but came from America where I grew up with very sound bible teachers. I’m not sure why but God brought me to a church I will leave anonymous? The pastors first sermon was entitled Destined to Reign!! I googled it, and he was preaching right off JPs outline! I later brought this up because I felt it was dishonest and the young adults pastor told me “but it’s an anointed message”. I was shocked, by the deception of not giving credit to the author? I later researched the book and its errors! When I pointed a few out some people got really mad at me and told me I was legalistic? They then gossiped about me and then lied about it! Needless to say there was no GRACE at this GRACE church, My parents also had a meeting with the pastor who told them he could have an “affair with his secretary and still be under grace!” I have forgiven everyone there but it was really hard moving on and I suffered much rejection. I’m thankful to Christ that he has my life fully in his hands! I want Him to be made known! He is Holy! Full of Grace and Love! Jesus said you know a tree by the fruit this is the fruit of FALSE teaching and hyper grace! The opposite extreme is Legalism which I am also against! This experience pushed me into deeper study of Gods word! The whole conviction of sin arguments are so easy to figure out I did a Greek WORD STUDY (duh!) and realised that the same word is used with believers in regards to sin in other scriptures! If the Holy Spirit never convinced or reproved of sin which is what CONVICT means why did Jesus in Revelation reveal sin to churches and call them to repentance!! Wake up JP is false and many are under a STRONG delusion!

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