He Is Risen!


It is finished
He has done it
Life conquered death
Jesus Christ
Has won it!    

The Victor   – Jamie Owens-Collins

Be Blessed this Easter in knowing our glorious Risen saviour…   Jesus King of Kings & Lord Of Lords

Impartation


To IMPART     means   to communicate information to someone     (cambridge dictionary)

Impartation is a big thing in this River…  any meeting you may go to may have a ministry session or impartation  session usually at the end & often combined with, instead of or alongside the Fire tunnel…

so lets look at it biblically – as that is our final authority:

Romans 1 v 8- 15 (HCSB)

First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, because your faith is being proclaimed throughout the whole world. For God, whom I serve in my spirit in thepreaching of the gospel of His Son, is my witness as to how unceasingly I make mention of you, 10 always in my prayers making request, if perhaps now at last by the will of God I may succeed in coming to you. 11 For I long to see you so that I may impart some spiritual gift to you, that you may be established; 12 that is, that I may be encouraged together with you while among you, each of us by the other’s faith, both yours and mine. 13 I do not want you to be unaware, brethren, that often I have planned to come to you (and have been prevented so far) so that I may obtain some fruit among you also, even as among the rest of the Gentiles. 14 I am under obligation both to Greeks and to barbarians, both to the wise and to the foolish. 15 So, for my part, I am eager to preach the gospel to you also who are in Rome.

Ok  so the context here is – preaching the Gospel – that is the first thing to notice.

so  the word impart could mean one of 2 things:

1)  Paul is saying here that HE is giving members of the church  spiritual gifts – to build them up  prophesy, discernment of spirits, speaking in tongues etc etc..  he prays – they receive the gift – they go use those new gifts to go out & do the same… – GIVE or IMPART a Spiritual Gift. or something of the Holy Spirit on to another…  This is how the concept of impartation is commonly understood in the teachings of the River in the present time

or

2)  Paul is saying here that he is going to prophesy over the people, or have a word of knowledge in order to build them  up & make them strong..

  this too is again endorsed in River teachings – the seemingly endless ministry that goes on each with heavy emphasis on the prophetic…  but this is not seen as am impartation of a “mantle or anointing”  for a work of destiny   more of a confirmation of such

but….  from the text we see that Paul is speaking corporately…  he is not talking here as though he intends imparting individualised prophetic words for each person…  the prophetic insight he is imparting here is to do with the building up of the body of believers to keep them strong, encouraged & established.

Ok

so here is what this same Apostle  Paul  says in 1 Corinthians 12 v 4-11  (NASB)

Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10 and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills.

taken together through these scriptures we can see that the impartation Paul speaks of is to do with example 2-   he teaches clearly that it is the Holy Spirit who does the distributing – the giving – the imparting…  it is unlikely then, in writing to the Romans  he would have meant that  it was him coming to GIVE them gifts that they could then take out & use  in the manner that “impartation” is contextualized today…with a specific anointing.    He was simply administering the gifts over them to make them strong & established, edifying the body  &  for why…   so that they could go out & Preach the Gospel…  that was his focus..

it seems obvious that the Holy  Spirit cannot be bounced from person to person, transferred from one to another in the ways we see being “manifested”.    The Apostle Paul – clearly did not do this….

The Holy Spirit  is a person, a comforter, all powerful but also gentle & a “gentleman” …  he does not overpower or overcome people against their will or “make” them behave in any ways that demonstrate lack of self control  … The believer has the free will to withdraw from him & he will respect that – he is not an oppressor & he will not HUNT people down. He does not seek worship of himself but promotes Christ Crucified, Christ Glorified.    if we see the very opposite of these characteristics being demonstrated as a “work of the spirit”   we need to be asking   – Which Spirit?

I believe  the impartation we see & are being told is the Holy Spirit is infact – a different spirit – we are under huge deception & delusion in the Bethelized church.

Leaving a Bethelized Church


Leaving a Bethelized Church or one that is so far gone into the ways of error is  difficult  but not impossible.  Our God is bigger & stronger than any falseness, work of darkness & oppression – AMEN!

here are some pointers if you are having this internal conversation

  • completely get grounded in the word.   pray & seek God ask him to reveal ultimate truths about all you are experiencing in your situation – ask for clear guidance from & through his word…  keep a journal if necessary   date, index & cross reference if thats helpful to you.
  • pray pray & pray…  for your leaders, for the others in your church & yourself.   that the Lord would reveal HIS truth to everyone in the mix.  set aside time to pray specifically into these issues,  Fast too if you feel it appropriate.  deal with any sin in your life & especially put right any outstanding issues you may have with any individuals you have within the body of believers.
  • wait  on God.. & wait a little while-    observe if there is any change in emphasis in your sitution (  but also be prepared – as when we did this things actually got worse in our situation)
  • Repent of anything, the Holy spirit reveals to you as error that you have been involved in – begin practicing withdrawing yourself from those elements that are occurring in your situation   (ie may be  no longer participating in certain ministries)   always be led by the Holy spirit on this…
  • continue searching the scriptures & widen your research  –   to find out as much info as you can about the specifics of your situation …  it may be that  where you are is heavily involved with SOZO or  BSSM   so research those things particularly
  • ask questions  through this blog & others..   contact us directly if you need to    rooftopsandrafters2013@hotmail.com

once you feel ready  & ONLY after praying & seeking God about the timing etc…   consider speaking to your leadership about the specific issues at hand.

I would recommend:

  • arrange /ask for a meeting in a neutral venue  (ie not your house)   with your leader..   ensure you have someone with you to support.  & that you will not be on your own up against a gang of 3.
  • explain your concern carefully, ask gentle but leading questions  & allow the leadership to respond – this is much better than going in with a list of  “I think THIS ”  – it may be through ignorance they have not considered some of the issues that you are now raising – so this does need to be acknowledged.
  • qualify any of the points you make from scripture & always refer to “what the word of God says”
  • Be fully prepared to hear how rebellious or anti – unity etc –  you have become in bringing this to them-  almost certainly there will be a defensive arrogance  in leadership responses.
  • Be fully prepared – to know that this meeting may clarify a need to resign..   if you feel not ready to face that possibility I would suggest not bringing these issues up until such a time…  in your heart & mind –  you need to feel self assured in what you are bringing & that there are very real consequences which may need to be actioned quite quickly after the meeting.

its quite likely that through this whole process, you will sense a great deal of confusion-   the only antidote to that is be grounded in the word…   it is our final authority & the ONLY thing you can trust in this situation to speak total truth…

*  know that there others that have done this before you, we are here to help & support & to pray for you  *

& you never know – you may be able to bring Truth to the table & a fresh perspective – which changes the direction of the leadership…   it was ugly, but has happened with one person I have known of.  I pray so  & that more will be snatched from a fire.

be richly blessed.

z

The Presence Of God


 Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Be miserable and mourn and weep; let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.  James 4 v 7-10   (NASB)

In the authentic Presence of God there is a demonstration of

  • submission to God
  • Humility
  • Repentance from Sin
  • Resistance of all Evil
  • Drawing near to God
  • being single minded ( without doubt) & full of faith for redeemption
  • purity of heart    –   actions/intent are clean
  • having an attitude – opposite to that of  a”party lifestyle”  (fruit of the spirit)

Alignment


This is a phrase we hear a lot in the River along with others such as “activation”, “hosting the presence” & a few others.

I thought I would do a little study into what “alignment” really means, in context of the scriptures & the context of what is being taught, expected & rolled out from the top down in this movement…

As with all these terms, it seems that a particular strand of thinking is taught, – imparted – in demonstrative ways & then others jump on the bandwagon of it & take it back to their own group or church..These terms then get bandied about with no proper clarification of what they really mean… It’s as though, leaders’ somehow expect to use to various terms & expect their people to automatically understand the precise interpretation, concept & outworking of what it is they are “on about”                                     There is this odd belief in these circles- that because there is high supernatural activity in the spiritual realm – that everyone in the mix, will by spiritual osmosis- understand in their thinking & be of the same heart & mind – That – they loudly proclaim, is unity!

This leads us straight into the heart of the discussion… In the dictionary, the word ALIGNMENT means to “line up with”. The scriptures would word it as BEING IN ACCORDANCE.

Now I tapped those words into bible gateway- each time in the OT     “IN ACCORDANCE” is mentioned it is ALWAYS in the context of being in obedience to that which God has said, or Commanded… the word of the Lord

Interestingly – the context in the NT the word ACCORDANCE is always used in relation to the bearing of the message of Christ Crucified… & or the diligence of being made a new person in Christ & the outworking of it.   In the case of Timothy, the use of IN ACCORDANCE  is used to describe  his fulfilling of  his ministry of evangelism – which again is promotion of the true Gospel of Christ…..

Clearly, we could exchange the word Accordance for the word Alignment in each of these scriptures & each would provide an equal measure of understanding, meaning & context…along with the text….

Now in the River it is being put about that we must have Alignment in the spiritual realm, being one with the Spirit of God… Very noble indeed… That the things of Earth MUST line up with the things of Heaven – with us as royal facilitators. Bringing an end to Sickness, Disease & any influence of the demonic…  in essence the teaching we receive in the River is this: that we must be in tune with heaven so much that WE bring Heaven down to Earth.

Try as I might, I cant seem to find the emphasis of this teaching in the scriptures..  I think we have turned  Matthew 6 v 9-10  into something that is not the intended context of the scripture:

9“Pray then in this way:

Our Father in heaven,
    hallowed be your name.
10     Your kingdom come.
    Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.   (NRSV)

The context here is about God’s will.. being done…  – that is his rule, reign, sovereignty & authority…   God’s will – like a golden thread of the entire cannon of scripture is to establish Jesus – the Crucified Christ as king of kings & Lord of Lords…  Supreme over all for eternity.   That is the context, that is the Kingdom  which he is pouring out & establishing  in our hearts….   it is an “invisible” kingdom.  Once we understand that as an overview – other things start to  make sense in our understanding..  Yes there is room for God’s will to include healings & miracles  but as it stands – they are not  “IT!”  there is also grace, patience & longsuffering to be able to stand when healings & miracles  & such don’t occur…   This is still the KINGDOM!  thus we see…God’s will & our submission to it is entirely different from that we have for ever & a day been fed as teachings in this  River

The problem is, that some of the methods & mindsets we are  adopting as facilitators of this great Alignment have more to do with New Age philosophy, practices & that particular worldview  than that of the scriptures.. Even the word Alignment is a New age, law of attraction concept… it’s where the idea, for example: That the the zodiac- the stars & planets line up to provoke good or bad outcomes originates  from .  We know this practice as Astrology.. Karma is the from the same basis.  – As is  all manner of spiritualized power of agreement – achieving of oneness with the Divine or the universe… thinking.    It is x +y = z formulaic thinking wrapped up in spiritual, mystical, magical, mindsets….

Now if it is a outworking, of formulas at its baseline, – where then is true faith & is it faith In God or faith in method ? –Right now, in Charismatic circles  we have adopted a  if I do this – this should work….Or,  God will do it because I am blessed Royalty in his Kingdom…   & I decree it so….  mentality  

We   truly need to ask  what is it that we are LINING UP WITH? & is this whole premise biblical?

Now we have the Holy Spirit, he leads & Guides us… Into what ? Well God’s will   (never occultism…)                                                           I so want to be aligned with him    & I know you do too  & what is more he will never ever lead us to contradict anything – that is not in the word of God….. We know this because the Word of God  itself always talks about the being in Accordance with is with the word of the Lord or God’s commands.

So if we are truly following the Holy Spirit Of God- WE will always be following & be in Alignment with the word of God – the two go hand in hand & cannot be separated…

The equal opposite must also be truth- therefore, the check in our spirits about ALIGNMENT needs to be: Does this thoroughly line up with the Word of God…? I would like to suggest that if doesn’t or if there is some area of greyness- where some parts do not fit… then there is deception in the mix…  Its our responsibility to know the Word of God, get grounded in it…  It is the only way we will know -sometimes quite suddenly- where there is error, misleading teaching & outright deception.

We cannot excuse away, the 5% or so that doesn’t fit –  the 5 %  or 2 % That  is our check in the spirit that something is OFF.. Does this sound like the way a perfect God operates-    with margins of error?           True Alignment or being in Accordance with… will match 100% otherwise it isn’t really lined up – its out of whack! As people say… therefore, it cannot be, by default – be aligned-  Oftentimes, people will justify error by highlighting the humanness of the deliverer ( of the prophetic word or teacher or whatever) Often citing the scripture of  “only prophesying in part”, “seeing through a mirror dimly” from 1 Corinthians 13…Whilst this draws a fair point direct from scripture, the context Paul is talking in is about the revelation of God’s glory which we cannot come into the fullness of before we stand before him face to face..  It’s about our sense of our incompleteness before his Glory more than it is about giving grace to a prophet & or allowing them room for error due to lack of a fully understandable prophetic utterance.

We need to know there are 2 spiritual Kingdoms, the kingdom of Light  & the Kingdom of darkness…  2 Corinthians 6 v 14 says:

Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?  NASB

Therefore, let’s deal with the silly myth in the River that everything in the spiritual realm originated with God-  the devil stole it, counterfeited it & we are taking it back- for God’s glory…  In fact-  there is an erroneous thought in the River that there is A SPIRITUAL REALM  (just the one)- this is fast becoming accepted theology.

Nope. everything that has the Devil has is of darkness- it belongs to him & the hordes of hell…  We  ( are truly born again)   have God’s glory, the promise of eternal life & have now entered into the kingdom of light… We are new creations- we are not to take things back from the counterfeiter-  let us have nothing to do with him & his ways..  We cannot redeem a practice that he has utilised – & christianize it up.. (basically make it acceptable for our own ends)    Come on …  our God is waaaaay bigger than that  & so should we be…   & why would we need anything the Devil has anyway?

Our Challenge & right standing before God is to be discerning, diligent & careful… when the church, the people we are responsible for & ourselves are being asked to “line up with” anything that sounds uber spiritual- we need to make absolutely sure that that which we are being asked to align our spirits, hearts & lives to – commit to & promote is completely grounded in scripture – if it’s not- or it just doesn’t sit or fit right we need the courage to reject it on the basis of it being deception…    If we do, just go along with the flow, dear friend – we are entering into a world of deception & pseudo unity ourselves.   What’s worse, is that we will know it before a very Holy God.

Time to ask of ourselves the tough questions.  Be blessed

further reading:

http://www.inplainsite.org/html/dt9_portals_to_heaven.html