Arrgh! my church has aligned & partnered with Bethel Redding!

Here in the Uk in the last 4-5 years, the influence of Bethel Church Redding has steadily impacted the charismatic church .   My personal story is that  it was the leadership  who got very “enamoured” with all that was going on, starting just after the bubble of the Lakeland Outpouring burst..  People from my neck of the woods had been to Lakeland, & watched a lot  of it on TV.   They got “Hungry”  for what they felt God was doing…

Slowly through their persistent hype for Spiritual experiences  or what they would term “encounters” they introduced everything to the church that they could. Straight from Bethel…  we had dvd teaching by  Danny Silk on the culture of honour. Impartation & soaking sessions, spiritual drunkenness – wild manifestations of the spirit – reports of Glory clouds & Gold dust & Angelic visitations.  The introduction of healing rooms, exclusively sang only Bethel songs..  &  had a visit from BSSM students.   We went totally overboard on the prophetic & talked about the anointing a lot.  Did some treasure hunting, went through the Fire Tunnels, decided to set up our own supernatural school of ministry. & started talking just like them  about being whacked in the spirit & having breakthroughs

What we didn’t do was stop to weigh all these things against the full counsel of the scriptures… & we stopped talking about Jesus, the cross & resurrection – Sin & repentance. The focus became all about entering into God’s presence- the prophetic, Healings, miracles Signs & wonders….   Does any of this sound familiar?


God showed Cindy Jacobs The Lord’s Prayer is really about Dominionism

One of the things that this movement does is to take an OT concept or principle & redeem it or reclaim it as valid for today. When in reality it has already been ‘overruled’ as irrelevant. Because, the nature of Christ’s sacrifice has dealt with the problem ( which is sin ) once & for all.

In this way the cross is undermined & the Gospel of Christ Jesus not only misrepresented but denied.

This is a very very serious error… Please don’t be fooled..

Supporters of this movement will say & have said: Theology is not important”. Look & see just how far, if we add that thinking to our mindsets, people can be led astray from the centrality of a risen saviour.

Supernatural Encounters

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Supernatural Encounters

God is supernatural and many unexplained supernatural events can occur. But we have become out of focus with “God can do anything”, and too much emphasis on the supernatural occurrences and an excess of angelic visitation, supernatural experiences and dreams and visions.  Even the great prophets and disciples in the bible didn’t have THAT many. God never violates His own character or His word.

In the bible, every supernatural occurrence had a reason and an outcome. Current false teaching is just the opposite with those false teachers and prophets claiming trips to heaven and out of body experiences for no reason other than to just hang out and have a good time.  They claim it is their “right” as a child of God. Really?  I wasn’t aware we had rights to anything.

Ezekiel was not taken up in the spirit to “hang out”.  He was called as a…

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so what’s the problem with signs & wonders?

signs & wonders are in the bible  right?    so that, makes them biblical right?   Jesus did them – the early church experienced them- the  devil counterfeited them  –   yep yep all true..

however,   todays “church”  is off base   with the signs & wonders  culture  & here’s why.

  •  S & W   are a one time, in the moment event –  even if we claim to be in a environment or culture where  S&W  are expected to be our normal experience…   they only serve the purpose of that one moment….  Now,   I believe our God can perform miracles & healings & I would never would want to deny someone their healing..  the problem is that the S&W culture which is created becomes addictive….    there is always a cry for more…  & an expectation that God will “do the wow factor” –   the mindset undergoes the change of being & taking responsibility for ones life –   to a snap my fingers & God will do it for me approach..
  • S&W  are not a right – purchased through Christ’s atonement on the cross…….    if they were so, it   would automatically follow that all people after salvation would have such an experience
  • Galatians 5 talks about the fruit of the spirit being  “longsuffering”    the S & W  culture teaches the exact opposite in receiving “your breakthrough”    & the implications of Kingdom now theology  are that the perfection that is found in heaven is for us here on earth right now…    ie :   no “longsuffering”
  • in the S & W culture, because of high expectation, everything is a sign…   not much discernment is offered & if it is it isn’t honoured but dismissed…     S& W are  often exaggerated….    & embellished beyond the originators testimony.   because in this  environment EXPERIENCES trump everything else
  • there is an undercurrent belief that the more  S&W in the mix – the more God is present.   & therefore it follows that the more S & W – the  more spiritual or favoured  a particular person or group is.
  • the  word of God  says  that S&W follow  the Gospel-   but if no Gospel  is ever shared –   how can we be sure that the S &W are genuinely of God
  • even receiving    a personal miracle (such as being raised from the dead)  is no guarantee of a persons salvation.   why because- we cannot “purchase” people into the kingdom of God this way  –   Jesus is the only one who has literally paid for our own salvation through his sacrifice on the cross.
  • in this movement – moving in a S & W realm  is all about exercising personal risk – & developing ones gifting..   the person receiving the miracle is pretty much secondary – in the equation…   on the streets this is highly irresponsible because there  is no care or concern for follow up for the individual unless they themselves initiate it
  • risk is confused with exercising faith…  & in actual fact  developing  a S & W culture undermines faith rather than promoting it……  I know that sounds strange. but  if we are in an environment where we always need to experience “God” in a tangible & definable  his presence is measured..   where then is the ability to stand through adversity & trials going to be tested out in our lives..? we need faith to know that God has that totally covered…  but if that process is continually linked to our experiences-   that’s not really faith…

remember the children of Israel – they had supernatural provision every day for 40 years in the wilderness..   manna, shoes that didn’t wear out, direction by a pillar of fire…..  & in that 40 year moment the day came when it ended…  they settled in the land & had to work for their provision-   instead of God providing they had to grow up & take responsibility –   they had to process that out instead of living of in the moment of the “event”

now am I saying im anti S & W  nope!  not at all…  what i’m saying is let’s be wise, lets understand this better-  S &W as part of a journey not the ultimate destination.